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07 April 2014

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Allen Young

I loved reading this and seeing the photos and the names of several women I have known over years, and who influenced my life and my way of looking at the world. Thank you for mentioning the way that panelists avoided mention of Cuba's aggressive and cruel anti-gay policies. Around that time, by the way, Cuba paid Stalinist-tyle lip service to equality for women, while the island was being run by macho men. A favorite telling moment of mine in Cuba, back in those days, was a visit to an athletic facility where a beauty parlor was included so that athletic women would be adequately gender-appropriate! I loved seeing your mutual friend Donna at the beginning of your post, and loved your attitude toward academia (a position that you and I share).

Roberta Salper

Sue,
How well you write! I, too, missed the lack of mention of Cell 16 and especially "No More Fun and Games" which was crucial in my formation, living in Washington, DC at the time. But what an infusion of energy the conference was!
Roberta Salper

sue katz

Thanks Allen and Roberta for your own thoughts and memories. When I heard that this was the first such conference about women's liberation at this level, I was blown away. We must get this history on the record!

Liz Zoob

Hi Sue--I met you briefly at the conference, and I also attended the wonderful panel you co-led with Diane, Judy, and Roberta (and the RCP woman who screamed as you describe above). And I so appreciate your report here. When I left the conference I felt unable to articulate and summarize much of what I had heard and experienced. Thanks so much for writing this. By the way, I was at the morning panel in which the Redstockings could not/would not repudiate their anti-lesbian stance in any meaningful way. It was quite disturbing.

sue katz

Liz, thanks so much for writing!! How did you find my blog? Without a photo, I can't place you but I wish I could. I very much appreciate your words and yes, it was disturbing to hear of that Redstockings screw-up. I'm thrilled that you were at our panel. Thanks again, Sue

Liz Zoob

Sue, I saw the link to your blog on Diane Balser's Facebook page. She and I are FB friends and long time friendly acquaintances. You can see a picture of me on FB, and we could even be FB friends too!

Liz

Liz Zoob

P.S. I think we were introduced to each other by Vicki Gabriner.

kathy

I enjoyed reading this and enjoyed hearing your talk at the meeting.

Its too bad you walked out of that first panel because TiGrace addressed a major turning point for working women: the Sears sex discrimination suit and I made some comments about aging women.

Why didn't more lesbian feminists submit panel proposals? Ditto for feminists of color? The imbalances at a conference like this seem to reflect self selection.

sue katz

Kathy, thanks so much for writing and for filling me in about what I missed. On one point I disagree: under-representation is never ever about self-selection. It is about how the organizers reach out and to whom. I would never have known anything about this conference - even tho I had every right as a women's liberation founder to be there as anyone else - except that I happen to be in Left on Pearl. As a result I know one of the producers who was somewhat involved in putting this together. She didn't approach me - even though she knew my background - but she posted on FB about the conference and I approached her. She was immediately enthusiastic and my proposal was quickly accepted. But when you're not in those lofty academic circles, you don't know nothing about this shit. They had to reach out to non-academic and more diverse communities.

kathy

Well, yes, if their goal was to get all the founders together they should have reached out. But I think instead, it was a more passive opening of an academic conference to non-academics. I found out about it via a feminist listserve and thought it was great that they'd take panels from feminists who aren't historians or teaching in Women's Studies. But I do wish the word had gotten out further and brought in more diverse voices.

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